I gotta be honest, cheering when people die isn't cool. Even when the person is question is a monumental, mass-murdering fuck-head such as Osama Bin Laden. He was a detestable human being who offered nothing but evil to the world. However, cheering when he died is eerily similar to when people in the middle east cheered on 9-11. To condemn others we first have to prove ourselves better than them with our actions. So lets just all agree that this is a good thing and move on with stoic determination to create a better world where people like him are never put in position to harm anyone again.
Fuck you. I live in New York, I saw the smoke from the World Trade Center over my house. There's a spot on the parkway not far from where I live where even on a shitty day you could see the towers and then, on that day, they were gone. It was just a pillar of smoke that filled the sky. This city deserves to cheer after what was done to it, as does the whole country. If I had the chance I wouldn't hesitate to shit right on what was left of that fucker's face. I hope he rots in hell.
good, he deserved to die.
Don't equate the cheers. When the middle east cheers for a successful terrorist attack, they cheer for the death of innocents, of civilians. The cheers today are for the death of a killer, a military enemy who has done harm to us in the past, and sought to do more in the future.That said, I subscribe to the Ender Wiggan philosophy: Kill your enemy. Kill him dead -way WAY dead so they can't hurt you anymore and so that others will think twice about messing with you and you won't have to fight anymore. But, Respect them, try to understand them, and if possible... love them.
Wiggin. Ender Wiggin. Gotta spell the name right. :P
Um...can we not be naive here? Do you think this ends things? There are those in the Midle East who think we just killed their hero. There's gonna be repercussions, and since the body has been "buried at sea" a lot of conspiracy theories about whether he's even dead.
are you seriously taking it personally that someone thinks we shouldnt cheer for someones death. first of all, i dont know why youre getting offended. from what you said, it seems like the only way it personally affected you is that it fucked up your view. secondly, no there is NO excuse for cheering for someones death. it is vile and disrespectful, and serves only to fan the flames of hatred. plus, what do we really have to cheer about? some guy who i havent even heard mentioned in like 8 years is now dead. great...nothing has changed. we got revenge, thats all it was. dont act like this was a monumental victory. the only one who should be cheering is obama, because he pretty much just got himself reelected
Do I think American foreign policy was partly responsible for the creation of Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda in the first place? Yes. Do I think current Western foreign policy in Central Asia and the Middle East is probably sowing the seeds for more of the same? Yes. Does any of that change the fact that Bin Laden was an evil mass-murderer who reveled in the fact he killed thousands of innocent people? Not in the slightest. I had no problem toasting his demise with a shot of vodka and celebrating the removal of one more villain from the face of the earth.
Andrew: 2/10Sure, you'll rile some people up, but you made yourself completely obvious at the line "from what you said, it seems like the only way it personally affected you is that it fucked up your view." Well-placed trolling requires at least a bit of subtlety. Better luck next time.
This has gotten a little too 1984. Maybe if we could tone down the 2 minute hate for a second and grow up, we'd realize that that cheering the death is stupid. Cheering one death because of thousands of others is ridiculous. It’s not justice, it’s revenge. Osama bin Laden was clearly a psychopath and a murderer. Did he deserve to die? Of course, he did. But, KILLING PEOPLE IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CHEER. For the next few days how about we just pretend that we're not just hairless chimps screaming guttural noises at some giant unknown terror. You have brains, presumably, try using them.
this may be the single greatest reaction I have heard so far.
@ KyleThey don't see us as innocent. And they see him as a hero. Both sides think the other is the bad guy. Saying "but we are the ones who are right" isn't worth shit. You wanna be the good guys, it means you hold yourself to a higher moral standard. otherwise you are just the guys with the better soldiers.Frankly I'm secure in my moral superiority in that I don't celebrate the death of anyone, even if i recognize the neccessity of that death.(never mind the fact that it would be about a billion times more useful to put him on trial in the hague).There's nothing wrong with you for removing an evil man from the earth. There is something extremely wrong with you if it gives you wood. Civilized people understand that sometime morally questionable things have to happen for the greater good, and the truly civilized don't try to hide that.@ MichaelCry me a river. Being in close proximity to an attack does not grant you some kind of omniscient morality license. You do not own 9/11, nor does it confer upon you, or ANYONE any special rights or privileges.
Dunno, don't really think it's going to have any affect on the day to day operations of al qaeada, hell, the idiots might go into a frenzy and do even more insane shit to "show the infidels what happens when you kill their leader".
@Michael, don't listen to them. Osama Bin Laden is dead! FUCK YEAH!Now, I have exactly four more people to add to my list of "I will fucking hold a celebration when they die."@Everyone Else Who Should Be Ignored:Deal with it.
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;; "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."--Martin Luther King J
I do not cheer because Bin Laden is dead; I cheer because he can no longer cause harm to anyone else ever again.
Sorry, I lost all emotional investment in 9/11 in 2005. Remember how everyone rallied to New York´s support and how the whole country is supposed to feel a personal connection and be emotionally invested in the City of New York´s problem. Well I´m from New Orleans and after the rest of the country couldn´t be bothered to give two shits about that city and left survivors there to die, after all the discussion about just abandoning the city and how its not worth tax payer money to rebuild it, it became clear that compatriotism in this country is one sided. 9/11 became solely a New York problem for me years ago. All the hoo ha about it is frankly quite offensive to people who live in places the country couldn´t be bothered to give a shit about. Katrina was treated as just a New Orleans problem So I say 9/11 is just a New York problem, please don´t bother me with it.
It bothers me that MovieBob, who often holds himself above the jocks and the military fetishists, ends up cheering a bunch of spec ops who shoot a world leader and dump Laden in the sea in a bag like an extra from the Sopranos.Sure, they may have done what they had to do, and I'm glad this has provided closure for some people. But don't treat it like it is something worth celebrating over. Yeesh.
Yeah, closure. Now that the US have bombed the fuck out of Iraq and seized control of all the oilfields, they no longer need the pretext of military action in the region... so they assassinate the guy and dump his carcass. Now all the stupid Americans who haven't got a clue about how their administration conducts foreign policy can get back to driving their Hummers and slaughtering Arabs in CoD.
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