tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post8427094734715078444..comments2024-03-27T18:36:43.527-07:00Comments on The GAME OVERTHINKER: EPISODE 55: "What We Lost In The Fire"MovieBobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226832228090053258noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-73353778184968695752012-03-07T22:34:27.708-08:002012-03-07T22:34:27.708-08:00I gotta ask: do arcades over there in fact just co...I gotta ask: do arcades over there in fact just cost a quarter, or may be the fact that just an expression or throwback to some time once they did?<br /><b><a href="http://www.kcq.com/" rel="nofollow">Cheap WOW Gold</a></b><br />I ask generally because straight down right here in Australia, you're fortunate to uncover a compare to that expenditures just one dollar (most cost two) which tends to make actively playing them a instead high-priced operation.<br /><b><a href="http://www.kcq.com/" rel="nofollow">World Of Warcraft Gold</a></b><br />Also, I've observed the whole 'take your progress with you' idea implemented in some inside the Japanese racers out there, although their names escape me precise now.<br /><b><a href="http://www.kcq.com/Runescape.gold" rel="nofollow">Cheap Runescape Gold</a></b>wfqSEOhttp://www.wfqcj.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-88850916518724999462011-10-28T11:37:39.087-07:002011-10-28T11:37:39.087-07:00This won't actually have success, I think so.This won't actually have success, I think so.yatesspain.blogspot.comhttp://yatesspain.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-59069480816713699992011-10-20T21:12:40.777-07:002011-10-20T21:12:40.777-07:00Really best episode. I am junkies of Arcade game. ...Really best episode. I am junkies of Arcade game. Even i have collected couple of Arcade games like X-men and Sega games.Growing Lightshttp://satandcable.com/left-categories/hydroponics/led-grow-lightsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-89973969489611419432011-09-26T03:39:00.123-07:002011-09-26T03:39:00.123-07:00gizmodo.com/312751/panoramic-mecha-simulator-arcad...gizmodo.com/312751/panoramic-mecha-simulator-arcade-game-is-networked-awesome<br /><br />what do you think of this? I see a lot of potential here for an experience that can only be found in an arcade.Gentle Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13937518066726322764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-21356333807362454312011-09-06T12:53:36.231-07:002011-09-06T12:53:36.231-07:00hmmmm. very late to this party.
honestly, though,...hmmmm. very late to this party.<br /><br />honestly, though, I can't really say I'm super into the idea of arcades. Never was a huge fan. sure they're part of history, but so is Atari, and I don't feel a need to spend money and time to preserve Atari either.<br /><br />sorry.....counterpointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281234724886956743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-12638582332113528952011-09-05T21:50:50.815-07:002011-09-05T21:50:50.815-07:00Have you ever been to Jillian's Bob? My wife ...Have you ever been to Jillian's Bob? My wife just started working there and I'm super stoked! It's a arcade/billiards gigantic place where you can get beer and bar food. It's kinda like an adult Chuck E Cheese's and the business there is actually really successful. Look it up sometime! If you're ever in Seattle, we'll go and I'll buy yah a beer! Seriously, hit it up on your way out of PAX!BARtacus!https://www.blogger.com/profile/09688659486840044082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-37491213491045410782011-08-18T14:50:48.569-07:002011-08-18T14:50:48.569-07:00Another fantastic episode. You ask what needs to ...Another fantastic episode. You ask what needs to be asked and represent (and challenge) the feelings of countless young adults of the gaming generation. And the story has my intrigue.<br /><br />My opinions are mixed when it comes to the arcades. I have fond memories of going to arcades every couple of months as a kid in the late 90's and very early 2000's. Finding strange and unfamiliar games was most of the appeal. But now thanks to download services and an expanding game library at home not many arcade cabinets are very interesting. Hell, I've always had the option of playing beat-em-ups and fighting games back on earlier consoles. Although, romping about the arcades with my siblings and cousins and friends was a rush that I treasured above typical home gameplay. I adored interactive play beyond simple joysticks and buttons, even though I was often the worst at those. I hated having to go home from the mysterious, cool arcade.<br /><br />I go take the train to Coney Island about once a year to satisfy that arcade feeling. That colorful environment, those totally fun peripherals, and the vigor of other players makes it worth going to. But the novelty wears off, I usually regret giving away so many quarters, and get mad that I wasn't able to play as much as I wanted. It would not affect me much if arcades continued to die out. Light gun and wheel games that cost a whole dollar per life? Fun for a while, but I can get that on the Wii.<br /><br />If arcades want to make a comeback they should do things that home consoles can't: huge screens, effect-laden booths, and massive, fine-tuned peripherals. They could also lower prices or be more generous about player death. I think that there might be potential for public places to extract the potential of interactive electronic entertainment that a home system could not. Maybe as motion tracking gets more sophisticated, virtual reality booths could be advanced enough to appeal over consoles or something like that. Or maybe I'm wrong.<br /><br />As for Japan's arcades still thriving, it must be because they have a different culture when it comes to how to spend leisure time and where hardcore gamers like to play. The west isn't going to just become like that easily.Matthew Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05282894640929918861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-79189104409995329292011-08-17T15:36:21.500-07:002011-08-17T15:36:21.500-07:00As much as you hit on for arcades being the fast v...As much as you hit on for arcades being the fast vanishing social component to videogames, I'm going to say you DID miss a vital point, which more or less demands some open letter request to the people in charge of what's left of the arcade industry.<br /><br />The arcades fell for much the same reason Nintendo did. (And at the same time too.) They acted like their relevance was a given, and took the consumers for granted.<br /><br />Think back to the days when yo stopped going to the arcade as much. What were the games like? The prices went up, and the playtime reduced. It seems like the arcade responded to the competition of home consoles in the worst way: They tried to milk the customers they had left, driving them away.<br /><br />While console games generally kept the same price per game each generation, the average game started asking about a dollar a play. While console games kept expanding in size, arcade games tried harder and harder to keep the player's stay short to free up the machine for the next player. Worst of all, I keep seeing Ms. Pac-man go for fifty cents. who's going to pay that per play when they can get the exact same at home?<br /><br />I think we CAN revive the dedicated arcade, but it will have to rebuild from the roots up. We have to create demand, and that will take getting some attention from the potential market by moving back into walmart's lobby, until a new generation gets a taste of a smarter arcade industry, which by the grace of god I'll be part of.<br /><br />We need to capitalize on the advantages the arcade can provide, and offer the players the value the players weren't getting from the arcades they left behind.<br /><br />Can you envision a big-screen game with five seats on the backside, beckoning passers-by in the mall? Can you imagine a wall full of machines, ALL of which can play that new hottest game, or any of the others which with lesser technology would have needed to be moved out to make room?Gilbmjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05974872165247791866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-23530418955198208472011-08-12T23:35:57.808-07:002011-08-12T23:35:57.808-07:00Personally, I'm fond of the progression thing,...Personally, I'm fond of the progression thing, wherein you take your various stats and whatnot from machine to machine. While I don't think that pure arcades are REALLY going to come back for some time, some of the most successful arcades I'VE seen include multiple attractions. Like the Main Event, which is primerally a bowling ally, but also includes a decently-sized arcade and a Laser Tag game.<br /><br />Which reminds me...theres another game that has a similar 'saved data' feature. I forget what its called, but basically you get a horse and save it to a card. Every time you spend credits at the machine, you get one training session with the horse, then you get to put it in a race alongside whoever's there next to you at the 5+ person machine. Its EPIC.<br /><br />I envision a similar premise, but with a 3D multiplayer brawler, connected by the phones you talked about earlier. Using the app, people would be able to customize their fighter, but only by bringing him or her to the virtual arena, could they earn experience, as well as better and rarer equipment.<br /><br />Eh? Any takers?paradoxicalWitchlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00185284510160081658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-25454434632295261922011-08-10T00:09:57.836-07:002011-08-10T00:09:57.836-07:00There is an Arcade next to my home, but I wouldn&#...There is an Arcade next to my home, but I wouldn't spend money there because...well...it doesn't work with quarters, it works with special arcade coins that cost 2$ each, not thank you, I have a console.Mykayelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08894667671107230266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-50490165828732237552011-08-08T16:32:52.980-07:002011-08-08T16:32:52.980-07:00Thank you for fixing your formula, Bob! This is BY...Thank you for fixing your formula, Bob! This is BY FAR the best episode I've seen from you in a very long while. Liiitle bit of story with a LOOOOTTA bit of thinking and analyzing. THIS is how your show should run from this point forward! Wonderful job, I'm so happy to see you're listening to the fans while also sticking to your guns. :) Much respect for this episode, sir.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-8787765012715970322011-08-08T16:07:00.403-07:002011-08-08T16:07:00.403-07:00Short version: F*ck the Arcades.
Long version: I ...Short version: F*ck the Arcades.<br /><br />Long version: I personally feel betrayed by Arcades when their prices went from one quarter (25 cents), to fifty cents, to a whole dollar, and then two whole dollars (eight quarters)! What the f*ck? Do they think we're rich or something?<br /><br />I understand a new game being a little more to play then some of the older ones, but having to spend eight dollars to continue only four times on a Tekken Machine is just bullsh*t ridiculous. They can all burn for all I care.<br /><br />F*ck the Arcades, f*ck the gaming industry as a whole; I refuse to be exploited by them anymore. I thinks it's about time they gave back to use for getting them where they are now.<br /><br />The only company I know of that does this for it's consumers is Bethesda Softworks, all others can kiss my a**. Sorry Bob, but this time I have to side with the Sol Bad-Guy. >:(weojungleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18432767732170908626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-60785608762702886752011-08-08T15:16:11.916-07:002011-08-08T15:16:11.916-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.streetPoet007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15139884135973611221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-91298220923244465452011-08-08T15:09:33.882-07:002011-08-08T15:09:33.882-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.streetPoet007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15139884135973611221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-53864133881938652892011-08-07T01:43:00.491-07:002011-08-07T01:43:00.491-07:00Here in Japan, they already use the card idea for ...Here in Japan, they already use the card idea for other games, mostly fighting and strategy games. Arcades also do pretty well, too, even if they're just mostly seen as kids' places outside of Akihabara. You can buy your card from the desk at the arcade or from a machine, and then you use that card every time you play the game. The difference is that you actually can't play the game without the card in most cases, but the cards are inexpensive, so it's no real big deal. They do the whole stat-tracking and leveling-up thing, and in certain cases, I believe you can even customize your character, and the settings will be saved on the card so you can use that customization at any seperate machine. They also have machines where you can use cards from the various card games popular among kids here to play over a network with other kids across the country and watch digitized versions of your creatures duke it out, much like in Yu-Gi-Oh. It's really kind of a shame that they don't bring that technology over to the West, as getting not just adult gamers, but kids into the arcades as well, is a big part of saving the arcade tradition. You've got to have games that will appeal to both child and adult audiences. At least, that's my opinion.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941536463252784739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-24527903807725119442011-08-06T22:04:06.920-07:002011-08-06T22:04:06.920-07:00I'll be perfectly honest: I don't have any...I'll be perfectly honest: I don't have any nostalgia for arcades, and I don't see what you think we're losing.<br /><br />Any time I've gone near anything vaguely video-gamey it's been a bunch of DDR or DDR-clone machines, pinball tables and gambling games. Maybe once, I've seen a racing game where the gimmick is the seat is shaped like a car.<br /><br />It's not the sort of thing that would get me to go anywhere regularly, because none of those games interest me in the slightest, and anything that does interest me is either on a handheld device or unavailable because the UK is happily banning anything that looks too much like a gun.<br /><br />A gaming-specific club/bar thing might work; the main thing it'd need to offer would be a better Internet connection than I get at home. It's difficult to see how you could specifically tailor that towards a gaming crowd, since as is that's just an internet cafe.<br /><br />Gaming has moved on. I don't see anyone pining for the days of Fred Ott's Sneeze, and I don't think anyone should be pining for the days of arcades either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098587142108525189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-47056786641461772142011-08-06T21:10:55.627-07:002011-08-06T21:10:55.627-07:00Did you ever play the FZero AX machines? You coul...Did you ever play the FZero AX machines? You could bring your gamecube memory card and put it in the machine and use your cars and what not from FZero GX. Playing through the AX maps unlocked the maps and new parts and then saved them on your gamecube memory card. You could then bring it home and play the AX maps and use the new parts on the Gamecube and FZero GX. It was pretty sweet but once you got everything there wasn´t really a need to go back to the machine. Did anyone else play this?The Karligarchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01160689239758165578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-83711910717493963272011-08-06T10:15:03.848-07:002011-08-06T10:15:03.848-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.ArchoNilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386387000146973595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-21096265783029000502011-08-06T10:14:43.680-07:002011-08-06T10:14:43.680-07:00Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit abou...Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the pyrothinker? it's fine you added this stupid antithinker but please, please do not focus more on random characters than on the message you want to deliver. At the episode itself, I can't say much. I usually tend to agree with you, but I don't really care about Arcades, they never were big here in Switzerland. Also this entire episode was pure nostalgia. Why do we need some scores on some Arcade if we can actually compete against the entire world? And what's up with the image of gamers will suffer from it? This is the present time, just like a lot of couples find themself on dating websites instead of a loud disco. Welcome to the present where we don't have to be limited by the lack of technologyArchoNilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386387000146973595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-38642823534326447732011-08-06T05:06:56.874-07:002011-08-06T05:06:56.874-07:00I've already had to tell my 8 year old what an...I've already had to tell my 8 year old what an Arcade was. Trust me, that hurt.Halollethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10079328143142881406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-62607725701950400572011-08-06T04:18:50.291-07:002011-08-06T04:18:50.291-07:00for arcades to survive there need to be two things...for arcades to survive there need to be two things to happen and i think one has there needs to be a big retro push witch there has been so that may bring some people into the arcade. secondly the arcade needs to give you something no home console can do it needs to sell the exsperiance more then anything else if you can play the game better at home then at an arcade<br /><br />not to mention some arcade/console crossing could be good like giving you a code where you could unlock a reward on you console like an avatar clothes or some extra power or a special itemtoosoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709163959889683426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-67508174601065724112011-08-06T00:09:24.715-07:002011-08-06T00:09:24.715-07:00I guess others have said it, but I'm shocked B...I guess others have said it, but I'm shocked Bob mentioned nothing about Japanese arcades. . .particularly given his penchant to inform us about aspects of Japanese gaming culture.<br /><br />If you've ever complained that Japan gets all the great games. . .just visit one of these arcades, and that'll definitely put it in perspective for you. What I saw when I traveled to Japan were mutliple story megaliths of gaming, all over the place in big cities like Tokyo and Osaka. And they're flooded with people, particularly bored high school and college students.<br /><br />The typical structure of these arcades are as follows:<br /><br />Basement: This where many of the fighting and racing games are, as well as classics from the '80s and '90s are. This will be the floor most American gamers will feel comfortable with.<br /><br />1st floor: UFO catcher style crane games. You can play to win all sorts of otaku paraphernalia. I didn't see anyone winning much while I was there, but that sure didn't prevent people from clustering around players, waiting with tension to see if some guy will pick up that Mr. Saturn plushy.<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/chaoticcranium/Japan%20Pictures%20-%20June%202010/IMG_1048.jpg?t=1312613381<br /><br />2nd floor: A whole variety of rhythm/music based games. You may have heard of DDR and Taiko Drum Master. . .these are just the tip of the iceberg. They also have a huge variety of photo booths aimed at women.<br /><br />But, then, the upper levels are where things get really different. You'll have things like this:<br /><br />- Interactive tabletop games<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/chaoticcranium/Japan%20Pictures%20-%20June%202010/IMG_1053.jpg?t=1312613279<br /><br />- Horse betting games with an actual miniature model horse tracks<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/chaoticcranium/Japan%20Pictures%20-%20June%202010/IMG_1055.jpg?t=1312613212<br /><br />- Gundam combat games where you are fully encompassed in what can only be described as a gaming pod:<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/chaoticcranium/Japan%20Pictures%20-%20June%202010/IMG_1063.jpg?t=1312613345 <br /><br />- And giant video-game themed prize games, like this:<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/chaoticcranium/Japan%20Pictures%20-%20June%202010/IMG_1004.jpg?t=1312613480 <br /><br />That's just a taste of the things I saw. As you can see, arcades in Japan constantly evolving and coming up with new ways to entertain. So, it's not like the arcade itself as a medium isn't capable of adapting. . .<br /><br /><br />So, why can't we ever get cool things like that? The closest we have are Dave and Busters and Jillians, and those don't even remotely compare. Could it really just be the manufacturing, shipping, and localization challenges involved in bringing these machines state-side? Perhaps, but I think there's a deeper, cultural reason for it, and I think that's a shame.chaoticcraniumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01127838613804886785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-73318746871999620182011-08-05T18:44:29.091-07:002011-08-05T18:44:29.091-07:00Bob. i'm probably one to say that though i mis...Bob. i'm probably one to say that though i miss the arcade. it's not as much as other people.<br /><br />i'm old enough to remember them. but i'm also not old enough to really have nostalgia about it. to be honest really, the fact that they're gone from where i live doesn't affect me as much as it does my two older brothers. but it's not like i don't love to have some good nostalgia burst when i find some of those machines.. hell last time me and a friend found a metal slug machine we blew 20 bucks on the dam thing cause we were having such a blast.<br /><br />great episode as always bob. let's see you take down that pyro thinkerLord Fluffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17468545970062473539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-58731257150982605572011-08-05T08:23:10.146-07:002011-08-05T08:23:10.146-07:00Bob your running is hilarious to watch.Bob your running is hilarious to watch.Trilliandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10818452839999189880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-12339717270004348452011-08-05T08:21:51.688-07:002011-08-05T08:21:51.688-07:00@ Ezenwa
I think that's because most of them ...@ Ezenwa<br /><br />I think that's because most of them gave up on the Overthinker a while ago...Smashmatt202https://www.blogger.com/profile/05993678210896932119noreply@blogger.com