tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post6750901132293117277..comments2024-03-28T13:24:46.023-07:00Comments on The GAME OVERTHINKER: EPISODE 51: "Putting The Cart Before The Cloud"MovieBobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226832228090053258noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-16090559663422021642011-10-19T05:51:14.019-07:002011-10-19T05:51:14.019-07:00It won't truly have effect, I suppose so.It won't truly have effect, I suppose so.tiendas eroticashttp://sexshoptienda.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-84848511701549184832011-08-31T00:54:44.822-07:002011-08-31T00:54:44.822-07:00Also I love you Bob but you should try saying your...Also I love you Bob but you should try saying your lines without reading them, it looks unnatural :PMartin Marshmellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833139194391467163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-76075102066560786982011-08-03T02:38:42.165-07:002011-08-03T02:38:42.165-07:00Interesting idea, and I think I may have a way tha...Interesting idea, and I think I may have a way that you can pitch it to the business.<br /><br />From a technical perspective, I would not use either USB-2.0 or SD/MMC, as they are much too slow for the main transfer pipe and you would see no benefit over traditional media. SATA-2 or SATA-3 at 3.0Gbps or 6.0Gbps respectively or perhaps USB-3.0 would make more of a case for a reduction in load times. Using Flash memory would make your seek time almost nonexistent, plus you would be able to block out a portion for user data.<br /><br />so, as I envision it, you could have a transfer pipe of SATA-3 with a control pipe with USB-3.0. Using flash and getting a good SSD controller, you'll be able to get vastly reduced loading times. Plus, you can market the portability of savegames and user preferences. <br /><br />However, executives aren't going to go for this because of benefits for the user. They want the bottom line, and the bottom line is that discs are really, really cheap. Where you get them on board is in loss prevention.<br /><br />You see, we have wonderful PKI systems set up (e.g. the DoD CAC) that can be leveraged to prevent losses due to piracy while not impacting the homebrew game market. You see, you can add a small crypto chip to the cartridge that you wouldn't be able to add to a disc. This chip would have a non-alterable cartridge specific ID, plus a public key/private key pair and all of the ancillary crypto to drive the PKI system, similar to the CAC. Also similar to the CAC, the user wouldn't be able to access the data stored on this chip. Rather, they would only be able to access certain features of the chip. You can then use a digital signature, computed on the crypto chip and using a public key that you as the publisher hold, to verify the game is complete and authorized before you unlock the game for loading to the console. If the keys and the ID don't match, you simply won't unlock the game data. You can encrypt it on the flash to make sure that someone just doens't read it off in a raw format and strip out the crypto.<br /><br />The beauty of PKI is that people can load the public keys from different publishers onto their systems independent of the manufacturer of the console. You'd allow homebrew games to be played via the console without modification of the console, which would remove the motivation of a portion of the console modding crowd. As for pirates, you simply make their job much more difficult by putting crypto and DRM in place via PKI. Another selling point of this is that once the public keys are downloaded to your system, you don't necessarily have to be connected to the internet to use the software. Thus, a PSN blackout wouldn't brick everyone's console like it would for a cloud based service, or for that matter a good number of DRM via internet connection games that they offer today.ke7ehahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07279421952834969551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-71609316827689171362011-07-08T08:53:57.719-07:002011-07-08T08:53:57.719-07:00oh, and a good idea, i think.oh, and a good idea, i think.counterpointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281234724886956743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-2113199445573236382011-07-08T08:48:20.779-07:002011-07-08T08:48:20.779-07:00wait.... bacardi.... and peeps?
i know you're...wait.... bacardi.... and peeps?<br /><br />i know you're wanting to show your face a lot more in these videos, but if you do, it is absolutely essential that you memorize your lines. the notes-glancing is extremely distracting, and it takes away the whole point of showing you (presumably to be more "personal), and you'd be better off merely with slides. so, yeah, practice in front of a mirror, or use it less often so you can memorize reasonable chunks at a time.counterpointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281234724886956743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-42366517525556692112011-07-04T20:28:31.371-07:002011-07-04T20:28:31.371-07:00I have been saying for YEARS now we should be usin...I have been saying for YEARS now we should be using flash drives (usb, etc) instead of optical media for entertainment purposes. It just makes much more sense.<br /><br />The whole reason why companies persist with optical media is purely for financial reasons. That is it.<br /><br />Sigh.<br /><br />How cool would it be to, instead of buying music on a cd from a store, you could walk into a store, browse for the song(s) you wanted, buy them as an mp3 (no drm or other crap), and put it on your usb drive?<br /><br />When you buy a movie instead of buying a DVD and having those large DVD cases cluttering up anything - it could simply come on a usb drive.<br /><br />I mean ...there are so many uses that it just makes sense. Yet - companies insist on sticking with optical media.<br /><br />Sigh.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01416528051057868362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-8380262182442843972011-06-23T13:02:07.492-07:002011-06-23T13:02:07.492-07:00This is actually a brilliant idea -- perhaps too b...This is actually a brilliant idea -- perhaps too brilliant for the game publishers and console manufacturers to actually use. It's much too practical and sensible, but I think the main hurdle is that the production costs would probably be much higher than that of pressing out DVD's. They could, of course, pass that on to the consumer, as you indicated, but it just seems like a much too progressive and "risky" an idea for the powers that be to accept.beemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08811105307907361131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-33947224533938312732011-06-11T19:45:24.941-07:002011-06-11T19:45:24.941-07:00I'm glad to see other people have pointed out ...I'm glad to see other people have pointed out some of the problems with your idea. It's something I've thought about myself before, so I can see the advantages, but the disadvantages are there as well. The one that will probably matter most is that for now it's way more expensive. Maybe that will change. <br /><br />I personally have no interest in having my save data on the game cartridge itself, but it's a bit of a preference thing. I have had problems with Nintendo's implementation of this setup because they give very few save files, and they also won't let me copy my save data from the cartridge, but if those problems are solved, I think it comes down to preference. There are notable advantages and disadvantages to both for the player and the manufacturer. Since I prefer keeping the save data seperate, one advantage I'll mention is that if I lose a game with save data on it, I also lose my save data. A memory card left inside the console or a hard drive is harder to lose, and I have lost a game before. I also didn't like that game though, so I think it's mostly preference.<br /><br />Since Bob loves the cloud so much, so I would like to point out that from what I've seen, the cloud is considered a bit of a joke to techy people. It's not that the cloud is a bad idea, but it's a fad, and people seem over eager to switch over to the cloud without considering the disadvantages. It's also funny because people seem to find it revolutionary, but in the past computers were expensive, so weak terminals were used to connect to a powerful mainframe, and that's basically what the cloud would be. Online storage has been around for a while too.<br /><br />Some of the disadvantages: An internet connection is needed, and while the internet is big, it's not everywhere all the time yet. Whoever is handling the data needs to be trusted not to lose it, not to be hacked, to keep it private if it's sensitive. If their servers go down or they turn evil, you could lose everything.<br /><br />There are advantages to the cloud, and I am not listing them because I think they're clear already. I guess the point is that we're not going to, or if we are, we shouldn't be using the cloud exclusively. Some things are done on the cloud, some things are done locally, and it depends on the circumstances.<br /><br />I'm personally interested in going further in both directions. There some things on the internet that I've been too lazy to make local copies of, and some things that I would like to get online for the convenience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-6479440902249625292011-06-09T09:47:34.376-07:002011-06-09T09:47:34.376-07:00Could the same argument be made about movies, Bob?...Could the same argument be made about movies, Bob? This popped up on YouTube this morning, wondering if you agree:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/davidmitchellsoapbox#p/u/0/PqSZEGj-SuIScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10376441609286182966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-74244021667641956252011-06-08T09:00:19.473-07:002011-06-08T09:00:19.473-07:00the Game shop in my area has started selling XBLA ...the Game shop in my area has started selling XBLA games over the counter on Pen drives so u arent the first to come up with this idea the only problem is with DLC being the big thing you run into some problems. for one piracy. its not something that you even need to go deep into before you start to see the cracks in your idea. Putting the game on a flash drive is like doing half the work for the piratier.buzzkillintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16055387893087099934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-85715358209824800512011-06-01T10:43:55.925-07:002011-06-01T10:43:55.925-07:00Great episode, by the way :D Do make the intro a b...Great episode, by the way :D Do make the intro a bit shorter though.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17065690314314077653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-46999451201234752492011-06-01T10:29:08.072-07:002011-06-01T10:29:08.072-07:00So now every time I watch an episode I have to be ...So now every time I watch an episode I have to be reminded of the antithinker... hmmm...Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17065690314314077653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-80133059209031384132011-06-01T10:24:06.866-07:002011-06-01T10:24:06.866-07:00holy crap!!!!!! i just left a comment in kotaku ab...holy crap!!!!!! i just left a comment in kotaku about how would it be cool, if they made sort of a cartridge /cd hybrid, but mostly thinking about sd cards and such, and just now i found this..., wouldnt it be cool if nintendo gave us that on the E3, that the new nintendo will be cartridge!!!!luis omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746467016746573802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-38202564153618125292011-05-30T23:01:09.566-07:002011-05-30T23:01:09.566-07:00Well you could spend a bunch of money on a telepro...Well you could spend a bunch of money on a teleprompter, or, make your own...<br /><br />Behold the power of some wood, a laptop, towel and a piece of glass!<br /><br />http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/08/weekend-project-diy-teleprompter.htmlIanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15788540013180318573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-39542789300459260042011-05-30T14:58:02.303-07:002011-05-30T14:58:02.303-07:00Pfui. Tacky opening. Lousy chip tune song + crappy...Pfui. Tacky opening. Lousy chip tune song + crappy scenes from that shitty story arc x 59 seconds? Far too long and too obnoxious. Knock it down to 4/5ths of its length and then I'll be happy.<br /><br />Shame because the content was excellent, and though I think the premise of re-instituting the cartridge industry would be unfeasible, regressive and too costly for businesses, I like the tribute to such an unsung hero in gaming development.maninahathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11831274516104531283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-68473923708216369272011-05-29T16:11:17.437-07:002011-05-29T16:11:17.437-07:00Please Bob, for your views (like me) DROP the Alte...Please Bob, for your views (like me) DROP the Alternate-Reality story!<br /><br />I didn't watch any episodes of your Warios Woods stuff, and I will just roll my eyes at any new half-ass story you try and force into your intellectual soapboxing.<br /><br />Make a new series that's less frequently updated if you want to direct, don't water down tGO for that. PLEASE!KIL03https://www.blogger.com/profile/05998068048017136576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-29985452805599525222011-05-28T15:09:46.209-07:002011-05-28T15:09:46.209-07:00I've been watching since episode 1, and as alw...I've been watching since episode 1, and as always, love the content. However, it seems that with this episode, GO appears completely cheap and unprofessional. The intro is rather meh and entirely too long, and it's super obvious and off-putting when you read the script right off the screen. You can do better, Bob, I know it!!Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919469785242516458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-15252118104929817342011-05-27T15:53:33.262-07:002011-05-27T15:53:33.262-07:00Please give it a rest with the PC elitist thing. Y...Please give it a rest with the PC elitist thing. You keep coming off like an idiot, rather than displaying your normal shrewd analytical skills.<br /><br />Your comments in this episode were a case in point. How could PC elitist have been born when cartridges came along, as the PC as a 'respectable' (or something that could be elitist about) gaming platform was at least 10 years away when cartridges were first being used for games. Even home computer games were still a few years away from becoming meaningfull gaming devices. Anyone who wanted to play games at home at the beginning of the 80 had to do so using a cartridge based console. Even if, like yours truly, they moved to home computer games and then became supposed 'PC elitists' later on.<br /><br />Really, don't go there, discussing PC gaming is the over-thinkers kryptonite. Otherwise as normal a great episode and argument to bring back the cartridge.Phoboshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09337327515832076355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-56548239314250969352011-05-26T23:06:21.854-07:002011-05-26T23:06:21.854-07:00Your actual topics continue to be pretty informati...Your actual topics continue to be pretty informative and interesting, I'm not entirely sure a storyline is necessary here. It's not something a guy does solely because he -can- (TGWTG take note too). The Antithinker seemed to jar me out of paying attention to the topic, it wrecked the pacing, and to me it was like a large, infected zit on the otherwise handsome face that is GO.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04516456338814172368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-4860626802517913872011-05-26T10:36:18.086-07:002011-05-26T10:36:18.086-07:00Long intro is looooong.
I don't think that th...Long intro is looooong.<br /><br />I don't think that the development of a new cartridge revolution would actually make consoles cheaper.<br /><br />1. Any consoles currently in development which had not already planned for this would incur significant additional R&D costs and potential delays for its implementation.<br />2. Any R&D costs are passed on to the consumer in the price of the console.<br />3. You won't actually get rid of hard drives on consoles because they're required for early stages of the cloud to function. It would be like taking the wheels off a stage coach in preparation for the obsolescence of horses.Matoushinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03718386005726390542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-71670458770052113292011-05-25T20:12:51.985-07:002011-05-25T20:12:51.985-07:00Intro too long, foreshadowing of storyline...PLEAS...Intro too long, foreshadowing of storyline...PLEASE don't! The overthinking was great, had the same idea some years ago, nice to see I'm not the only one. But if you have to read the script, try not to show yourself at it. Maybe show you at every second sentence so you can switch back and forth between reading and talking and the cuts can be masked.DasHühttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03989996254755357354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-67591964274833674932011-05-24T15:02:19.513-07:002011-05-24T15:02:19.513-07:00i have always wanted to know what you think about ...i have always wanted to know what you think about the pc. Please do a video about pc gamers you will get many views!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-24948612151490727192011-05-23T18:17:12.042-07:002011-05-23T18:17:12.042-07:00I say imitating the DS and 3DS' card style wo...I say imitating the DS and 3DS' card style would be for the best. Discs are quickly becoming obsolete especially since flash drives and SD cards are far better with loading times and aren't quite as fragile.ScrewAttackSamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00062574888317631429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-36590474844559096332011-05-23T17:18:00.253-07:002011-05-23T17:18:00.253-07:00Although admittedly I knew nothing of the Cloud un...Although admittedly I knew nothing of the Cloud until just now when I checked Wikipedia, I see no obstacle to it. At any moment, either Steam or the App Store could strike a deal with a high-profile game developer, turn loading times into downloading times, and the rest writes itself.imsmarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07900858875327497744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031707140462457270.post-59835773878099158332011-05-23T17:02:41.194-07:002011-05-23T17:02:41.194-07:00I'm glad I'm not the only one here who has...I'm glad I'm not the only one here who has a problem with the "cloud" idea. I like having a physical copy that I can remove from the machine (and thus from harm). Blistered Thumbs reviewer RinryGameGame also recently showed how tough those old cartridges really are, and would be harder to break to the point of unusablity (not an acutal word) than the current disks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com